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Straw men and red herrings from the "Dr."

Reader comment on item: Is Allah God? - Continued
in response to reader comment: If a scholar said that the moon is made of green cheese, would that make it so?

Submitted by zzazzeefrazzee (United States), Apr 21, 2008 at 23:17

"What may seem illogical to you can be perfectly logical to me because I understand it in a way that is different from you -- a difference that you seem intent to reject."

You do not arrive at your beliefs by any sort of logical process. you're more than entitled to hold them, but that does not mean that you are very persuasive that your position is in any way correct.

"Saying that YHVH means "Yahweh" or is pronounced "Yahweh" is offensive to Jews -- just as the making of images of Mohammed is offensive to Muslims, except that we do not issue fatwas and burn down buildings when it happens."

I looked at my original post, and I found only mention of YHVH, hence your argument is essentially a "straw man fallacy". Furthermore, I do believe that there is a certain capital punishment prescribed for breaking the first commandment. Whether or not that is actually carried out and why is a very good question, and whether a comparison can be made with the position of moderate Muslims is an excellent one.

"If you are telling me that I should not be offended by it, then that is a denial of my beliefs, and the right to express them as well as to others who also hold them. You have the right to hold a different opinion, but be advised that holding falsehoods to be true is another story."

More straw men.... you really should dust off those logic 101 notes.

Did I imply those things? or are you reading WAY too far into my posting the old saying that
"People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones"?

"What do you think about the Muslim belief (supported by a Hadith), that Jews are "descended from apes and pigs?""

If you're going to post red herrings as a way to divert attention from your original arguments, you could have at least picked a reasonable foundation for your claim in doing so. Even Robert Spencer has analyzed these claims, and they are not at all what you claim them to be.

http://frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=0A8793DB-BEE8-432F-9B1A-B87F33A5CA91

"I cannot speak about the veracity of the belief from a Muslim standpoint -- but I can speak about its offensiveness from a Jewish standpoint."

Given that you have made a predictably hasty generalization, you're certainly one to get easily offended.

Which leads me to reiterate that old adage:

"people who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones."

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