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replying to Curmally
Reader comment on item: The Organization of the Islamic Conference Gets Feisty
in response to reader comment: Reply to Mr Vishvas.

Submitted by G.Vishvas (India), Mar 25, 2008 at 22:23

Respected Curmally

No need to bring in Nigeria and Venezuela. They are, as far as I know, not financing global islamo-fascism, obscurantism and terrorism with their petro-dollars. We have to talk about urgent problems and not about everything under the sun. Some muslims in Nigeria however are supporting islamo-fascism (with or without petro-dollars) and that will have to be talked about.

My objection was not to importing technology (in deed no need to reinvent the wheel, as you say) - but to demanding money for something one has not done. I even blamed the capitalist system in general (not just the muslim petro-dollarists) that it allows people to become rich without doing hard honest work and instead makes money the measure of everything, irrespective of how this money is obtained and how it is used.

Read CAREFULLY my first posting to this theme and you will not find all those points which you are criticizing on me. "about OIC and lazy money [282 words] G.Vishvas Mar 17, 2008 00:11"

Many people are pocketing money without doing hard honest work for it - I was not mentioning all of

them by name but only the OIC financiers because that was what the topic is about.

India's export of raw petroleum is hardly one percent of its total export sum. But in some muslim

countries 90% of the income is obtained by blackmailing non-muslims through petroleum deals.

Your formulation "India produces oil" is wrong - India does not produce any oil. Some oil is found under the land that is called India. It is not something that India or indians have created through their labour. This analysis shows how you muslims have not developed the abilty to think accurately and answer questions honestly or take criticism in a spirit of open-minded inquiry. Islam means submission, that means mental slavery, and that makes it basically impossible for a muslim to become a sincere open-minded honest debater in his purely islamic function.

I have been writing emails to and receiving emails from muslims, and all of them show a big deficit when it comes to sincerity in debate - they tend to become polemic and start criticising things which have not been said at all. As soon as a non-muslim criticises something islamic they let loose a standard repertoire of sentences against him. Pakistanis are especially dumb in this context, especially when they have a chance to let loose their pakistan-ideology-indoctrination against a person from India.

I know what you pakistanis are taught about India, hindus, hindu religions, hindu history and hindu ancestors. Every time a pakistani replies to me he reveals these indoctrinations massively.

Peaceful coexistence requires honesty about history - and that is not possible within the framework of islam. Islam means mental slavery under a 7th century arabic god-concept and that is incompatible with the honesty that is required in the 21st century. Islam does not allow any critical honest look at islam's and muslims' misdeeds, idiocies, sins and failures.

Arthur Koestler wrote a book "The God that failed". It was about marxism-communism in which he once believed and left disappointed. A new book with the same title is now necessary and possible about islam and its 7th century arabic god-concept called allah. You pakistanis must prepare yourself carefully for this transition.

I wish me (and to you) safety and freedom from islam (=submission=mental slavery) for the future.


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Western And Non-Muslim Policy-Makers Need To Create An Anti-Sharia Bloc [231 words]GWKMar 26, 2008 08:34
GWK- But How? [122 words]YnnatchkahApr 1, 2008 23:06
How? Some Thoughts ... [177 words]GWKApr 2, 2008 21:56
A natural process? [201 words]GWKApr 3, 2008 20:53
You are so right, GWK [147 words]YnnatchkahApr 4, 2008 21:08
Not So Fast -- Spine is Needed, But That's Where We Part. [59 words]GWKApr 7, 2008 18:02
What a great idea! I can't wait for OIC's first lawsuit against non-Muslims. [74 words]DrRJPMar 23, 2008 16:22
Another bumbling "rep"..... [135 words]Abu NuwasMar 23, 2008 14:07
No Chruch in Saudia, No Mosque in the West [91 words]OlieMar 23, 2008 07:14
The Organization of the Islamic Conference Gets Feisty [371 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 23, 2008 03:07
Fazal Habib [107 words]OlieMar 25, 2008 09:08
Reply to Olie [695 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 26, 2008 00:47
The OIC Summit, just concluded in Dakar, Senegal [157 words]Dr. Steve CarolMar 22, 2008 19:38
'The new leadership moving into moderation'! [69 words]M.D'SouzaMar 22, 2008 17:40
What arrogance and immaturity. [161 words]GeorgeOfTheJungleMar 21, 2008 08:34
A majority of leaders and clerics of Muslims have done them a great disservice... [249 words]KatteyMar 21, 2008 21:31
wrong [63 words]yamMar 17, 2009 14:43
Two Points of "Extreme" Moderation. [244 words]YnnatchkahMar 17, 2008 16:34
It's now or never [133 words]Rebecca MouldsMar 17, 2008 09:42
Lots of American citizens are aware. [219 words]KatteyMar 19, 2008 17:07
On legal action [346 words]MeghanMar 17, 2008 03:13
about OIC and lazy money [282 words]G.VishvasMar 17, 2008 00:11
Economics to save Western Civilization from Islamic Opressors- being destroyed. [460 words]YnnatchkahMar 18, 2008 22:02
To be fair: [160 words]KatteyMar 19, 2008 17:28
The Brits renegged on their promise to the Jews long before any promise made to any other ME country. [261 words]DrRJPMar 20, 2008 15:01
The Brits and the Middle East - early 20th century. [304 words]KatteyMar 21, 2008 01:37
About OIC and lazy money. [181 words]fazal Habib CurmallyMar 23, 2008 03:19
please read carefully [271 words]G.VishvasMar 24, 2008 05:03
Reply to Mr Vishvas. [107 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 25, 2008 02:07
⇒ replying to Curmally [567 words]G.VishvasMar 25, 2008 22:23
My next reply to Mr. Vishvas. [191 words]Fazal Habib CurmllyMar 27, 2008 00:24
30th of February has already happened [253 words]G.VishvasMar 27, 2008 21:50
Reply to 30th of February has already happened. [178 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 28, 2008 23:11
deeper discussion [474 words]G.VishvasMar 29, 2008 22:18
Reply to Mr Vishvas 29th March 2008. [137 words]Fazal Habib CurmallyMar 31, 2008 00:24
about transcending mental slavery [507 words]G.VishvasMar 31, 2008 21:05

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