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Submitted by skmiller (United States), Jan 28, 2008 at 10:13

All authors are skirting the problem (Islam/allah). If Islam is removed from the daily lives of Arabs these tribes will act like Israelites.

There is no difference in land (association) between Palestine and Haifa but the people in West Bank and Gaza they kill each other while the 12 tribes and several countries populations of Jews live peacefully.

Islam lived last 1400 years like this way and it will take long time to change the old habits. Nothing to do with the tribal mentatlity. Where ever islam spread that way of living imbibed in their life style. Who wouldn't kill one to go to heaven and on top get 72 virgins. Any small excuse is a ticket to heaven and babes. (Nothing to do with tribal multiplication or substraction it is more to do with Allah multiplication and bad allah or infidel subtsration).

Question to Dr. Pipes:

Dr. Pipes, as i notice from your articles the solution to the problem of Islam is moderate Islam or more moderates in Islam. My question to you is this, so far how many moderates you have added to your camp, what organization is starting or encouraging moderates, what organization is starting a moderate Qoran? are you working with moderate imams to start a moderate qoran without the killings of infidels, un-armed individuals and weak women?

All the greats out there are talking about problem in islam but no one is talking about taking action? or what action is going to prevent islam from taking us down under. Hizbollah killed one more good guys in Lebanon. Islamic organizations can and will kill anyone whenever they want to while non islamics are not organized to prevent them from killing our innocent people who oppose them legally. Are we supposed to expect our Govts to act (you know govt. of lebanon is not acting/not capable of stopping, so are lot of moslem govts) or are we supposed to get organiZed and protect ourselves?

Islamics killed butto, it is just a piece of cake for them to annihilate an individual who may be a head of a nation or a party (even Anwar Sadat was killed, if he was alive who knows what would have happened).

Enough said with what ails Islam, it is time to stop what Islam is doing to us. UN has failed in all fronts.


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Daniel Pipes replies:

"so far how many moderates you have added to your camp, what organization is starting or encouraging moderates, what organization is starting a moderate Qoran?"

I am no activist or organizer, but if you wish to see one of my efforts, read "Stephen Schwartz and the Center for Islamic Pluralism."

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Muslims from India and countries where they are minority./CIP [248 words]YnnatchkahFeb 25, 2008 23:17
Loved to listen to your interview today. [44 words]YnnatchkahFeb 25, 2008 22:53
⇒ Authors are afraid to get into Islam
[w/response] [392 words]
skmillerJan 28, 2008 10:13
Tribalism or Islam??? [189 words]JaladhiFeb 21, 2008 15:36
Where is this not the case? [166 words]DONVANJan 28, 2008 09:53
Arab tribal mindset [97 words]mark goldbergJan 28, 2008 04:07
This seems rather obvious to me..... [123 words]DrewJan 27, 2008 12:12
Islam discourages tribalism [78 words]AhmadJan 27, 2008 09:45
ISLAM & TRIBALISM [76 words]mark goldbergJan 28, 2008 03:54
To Amhad, please be more specific [245 words]Larry B.Jan 28, 2008 16:55
Ahmad, Do you know true Islam? [203 words]Ali KhalafJan 29, 2008 15:59
Islam discourages tribalism [112 words]AhmadJan 29, 2008 19:16
Islam discourages tribalism [204 words]AhmadJan 29, 2008 19:34
Tribalism [14 words]AhmadJan 29, 2008 19:40
Thank you - Ali Khalaf [102 words]JaladhiJan 29, 2008 20:42
Ahmad, we are happy to remain non-thinking mammals, instead of becoming thinking Muslims. [761 words]PlatoFeb 1, 2008 00:11
Tribalizm [33 words]KrisFeb 1, 2008 12:34
Ahmed, Please dont try to pull wool over my eyes [510 words]Ali KhalafFeb 1, 2008 17:01
Sex with Daughters in Law : Divinely Ordained [47 words]Ali KhalafFeb 1, 2008 17:15
response to Ali [103 words]AhmadFeb 3, 2008 09:00
response to Kris [81 words]AhmadFeb 3, 2008 09:06
response to Plato [276 words]AhmadFeb 3, 2008 09:27
Thank you, Ali Khalaf [136 words]jennifer solisFeb 3, 2008 20:01
Answer to Ahmad [109 words]KrisFeb 3, 2008 23:03
ALI; Prophet Gained Riches and Women from Prophethood [306 words]Ali KhalafFeb 4, 2008 12:50
Response to Ahmad, Read Hadiths and Siras before calling me misinformed [274 words]Ali KhalafFeb 4, 2008 13:42
Ahmad: Would you emulate what your prophet did? [538 words]PlatoFeb 5, 2008 01:41
To Jennifer Solis: Only guarantee of Getting Paradise is to kill or get killed for Allah (9.111) [260 words]Ali KhalafFeb 5, 2008 13:20
read the Koran and be misinformed [203 words]trans-parereFeb 5, 2008 18:07
Prophethood for Profit!!! [100 words]JaladhiFeb 7, 2008 16:09
Sharia [204 words]AhmadFeb 7, 2008 19:36
JALADHI: AYA 33.50 IS ENOUGH TO EXPOSE THE PROPHET [41 words]Ali KhalafFeb 8, 2008 11:28
the Jewish people flourished and were treated fairly? [52 words]Alex SabyFeb 11, 2008 22:54
treaty [22 words]AhmadFeb 12, 2008 22:15
Equality [13 words]KrisFeb 13, 2008 12:16
Equality [7 words]AhmadFeb 13, 2008 19:56
We were suckered ... [45 words]Alex SabyFeb 14, 2008 19:45
100% of what rights? [200 words]jennifer solisFeb 15, 2008 01:34
Jewish tribes [319 words]AhmadFeb 15, 2008 18:08
Jewish of Arabia [80 words]Alex SabyFeb 15, 2008 20:28
sharia [242 words]AhmadFeb 16, 2008 09:14
Our dear Ahmad and fantasy [179 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 16, 2008 09:46
A distorted view? [224 words]Larry B.Feb 16, 2008 12:30
Equality versus rights [224 words]KrisFeb 16, 2008 15:53
Our dear Ahamd and al-nasikh wa al-mansukh [148 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 16, 2008 19:06
Rule over Islamic Society vs. Free Will [174 words]jenninfer solisFeb 17, 2008 00:44
dhimmi no more [40 words]AhmadFeb 17, 2008 07:46
rights [60 words]AhmadFeb 17, 2008 07:54
Jewish tribes [32 words]AhmadFeb 17, 2008 08:32
Our dear Ahmad and the "no complusion in religion"'s Sabab al-Nuzul part deux [332 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 17, 2008 08:49
Our dear Ahmad and Muslim logic an oxymoron if there is one [423 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 17, 2008 09:05
Our dear Ahmad you have no answer! I see [78 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 18, 2008 07:13
Ahmad: Do a reality check on Islamic history form original Muslim sources, not latter day Maulana history [556 words]PlatoFeb 18, 2008 07:50
Ahmed: Defending virtual sharia [151 words]PlatoFeb 18, 2008 08:06
Ahmad: A dishonest way to honour treaties [348 words]PlatoFeb 18, 2008 08:36
Jewish Tribes Issue! [47 words]Alex SabyFeb 18, 2008 23:46
Our dear Ahmad and dhimmis [34 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 19, 2008 07:55
Islam does not offer a Free Choice! [85 words]alex SabyFeb 19, 2008 14:42
jewish -muslim history [23 words]Ahmadt aoutbFeb 19, 2008 18:16
The shari3a and our dear Ahmad al-tablighee and delusions [83 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 19, 2008 19:38
Ahmad: History is a matter of belief? [27 words]PlatoFeb 19, 2008 22:26
Big time falsafa from North of the Border and the Qur'an v. the Shahnemah [511 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 20, 2008 07:45
History [19 words]AhmadFeb 20, 2008 17:57
muslim acts [39 words]AhmadFeb 20, 2008 18:04
Jizzya [48 words]AhmadFeb 20, 2008 18:14
Buzzzzzzz??? [577 words]trans-parereFeb 20, 2008 19:31
Our dear Ahmad and his Allah little jizya [239 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 22, 2008 17:58
G-d is Reasons [114 words]Alex SabyFeb 24, 2008 13:44
Evidence [172 words]AhmadFeb 26, 2008 17:53
SURA 33.50 -- IS ALL OF 33 AS SELF-SERVING AS IT SOUNDS? [400 words]gwkMay 10, 2008 20:49
Arab Tribalism [167 words]Gloria StewartJan 26, 2008 18:33
Arab tribalism [86 words]mark goldbergJan 28, 2008 04:01
Arab Tribalism: Response to Mark Goldberg [236 words]Gloria StewartJan 28, 2008 18:25
Destruction of mankind [327 words]YovenJan 25, 2008 16:55
Slogans [39 words]mark goldbergJan 28, 2008 04:13
Question for Dr Pipes?
[w/response] [55 words]
YovenJan 25, 2008 16:19
Questions About the Book
[w/response] [236 words]
Fred F.Jan 25, 2008 12:22
for Fred F. [165 words]Peter HerzJan 28, 2008 11:46
Thanks for the recommendation. [24 words]Fred F.Jun 8, 2008 12:30
Interesting comparative research [109 words]Elad YoranJan 25, 2008 12:01
Tribalism ist not obligatorily a bad thing. And religion is not obligatorily a good thing. [127 words]Alain Jean-MairetJan 25, 2008 03:10
Review misses part of Salzman's thesis
[w/response] [233 words]
Archimedes2Jan 25, 2008 02:45
Good Discussion [46 words]Monte GardnerFeb 5, 2008 22:07
Yes, here, but no, in Dar al-Islam [243 words]Archimedes2Feb 6, 2008 18:20
cultural values perpetuated in isolation [290 words]Trans-parereJan 25, 2008 01:02
"Reformation" impossible for Islam [253 words]jennifer solisJan 25, 2008 00:20
Collectivism vs Individualsim [263 words]Ralph C Whaley MDJan 24, 2008 22:58
Tribalism and Judeo-Christianity [134 words]Richard B.Jan 24, 2008 22:53
Ramana's right [147 words]DonJan 24, 2008 20:38
COMMENTS ON MIDDLE EAST TRIBAL AFFLICTION [403 words]JACQUES HADIDAJan 24, 2008 19:30
Similarities/Differences with Dr. Martin Kramer's Thesis?
[w/response] [85 words]
AlexJan 24, 2008 16:59
And perhaps, overarching all, INTOLERANCE [450 words]Ron ThompsonJan 24, 2008 14:35
Why Islam does not prevent destructive tribalism. [296 words]Duane FJan 25, 2008 13:40
The Worst of Both Worlds? [337 words]Ron ThompsonJan 26, 2008 11:42
There is Only One World [300 words]Duane FJan 27, 2008 14:16
Some Puzzles [100 words]Edward HalperJan 24, 2008 13:46
Perceptive [53 words]VijayJan 24, 2008 12:16
That excellently explains the murderous vitality of Islam, and doesn't offer much hope [115 words]Charles MartelJan 24, 2008 11:56
I had written this exact point couple years ago here. [25 words]Mike AksmanJan 24, 2008 11:32
I'm confused [35 words]bosJan 25, 2008 06:43
sorry to hurt your feelings [73 words]maksmanJan 25, 2008 19:44
no need to apologise, you didnt hurt my feelings [512 words]bosJan 28, 2008 09:51
boy, too much knowledge is not always good as I can see [91 words]maksmanJan 28, 2008 20:07
dear, proudly under informed [339 words]bosJan 30, 2008 04:57
it is getting interesting for the wrong reasons [70 words]maksmanJan 31, 2008 17:00
Intelligence [54 words]David W. LincolnJan 24, 2008 11:29
Profundity or hubris? [124 words]MarciJan 24, 2008 11:16
Islam and Nazism [93 words]yuval Brandstetter MDJan 28, 2008 05:55
The West is not Saintly [61 words]MarciJan 29, 2008 19:03
Islam and Naziism [117 words]marciJan 29, 2008 19:13
India [132 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDFeb 2, 2008 08:29
Marci's Unsaintly Western Fascism [233 words]Arlinda DeAngelisFeb 10, 2008 20:55
Islam is the cause of Middle East and World problems!!! [80 words]JaladhiJan 24, 2008 11:09
Re: P.C. Salzman's Book (Culture and Conflict in the Middle East)
[w/response] [58 words]
Jerrold TerdimanJan 24, 2008 10:46
The Middle East's Tribal Affliction [173 words]Jerrold Terdiman MDJan 29, 2008 15:39
One more way ... [10 words]David GerstmanJan 24, 2008 10:35
when tradition falters [368 words]Rebecca MouldsJan 24, 2008 10:16
Tribalism [42 words]DJan 24, 2008 09:12
HOW THEN CIVILIZATION? [92 words]Mary Helen ConnellyJan 24, 2008 09:05
Govermental solution? [85 words]john heffronJan 24, 2008 07:15
This pattern of rule is not peculiar to the Middle East. Throughout the Islamic world, this is the pattern. [190 words]Ramana RajgopaulJan 24, 2008 02:29
Islam's afflictions built into it [453 words]PlatoJan 30, 2008 21:31

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