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Contradictions are okay in Islam

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Submitted by Homefront (Australia), Dec 3, 2007 at 19:13

Geoff,

Don't argue logic against the intrinsically illogical. If you have seen the documentary "Islam, What the West needs to know" (parts of which are posted on you tube), then you would be familiar with the Islamic doctrine of abrogation which sees verses that occurred later chronologically in the Koran as superior to earlier ones. Thus the warlike Medinian passages abrogate the more peaceful Meccan ones and we see the 'Islamism' of today as a natural byproduct of this doctrine of comprehensive Muslim vs nonmuslim violence.

Abrogation advances the very strange proposition of God changing his mind which we in the west would find to be very peculiar indeed. I submit that this doctrine is merely an artifact of realpolitik within the Islamic fraternity rather than anyhting to do with religion. This is consistent with the unspoken premise of Christianity that Mohammed was a *gasp* false prophet.

But I digress - returning to my original point Islam's logic is highly insulated and perfected over many centuries of building up theological fortifications. Attempts by an outsider to assault its walls with the seige engine of logic when logic only operates in a halfway fashion in the ME is folly in the extreme.

Homefront.


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