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Submitted by donvan (United States), Nov 7, 2007 at 15:25

I have seen Dr Pipes at American U. in DC, A more intelligent,thoughtful and polite gentleman scholar is difficult to imagine. I struggle with his insistence, however, that 'Moderate' Islam is the solution for 'Militant' Islam. I simply do not understand his rationale. Unless it is simply a recognition of political reality of the numerical solidarity of the Muslim global insurgency. In which case, is hardly a cause for optimism.

...'islam' has no redeeming social value. Aside from strict control of the masses it is , in all aspects, antithetical to to the nation -state, embraces pratical enslavement of females, allows no process for liberalization of the inhumane justice system. Are we blinded by its acceptence by conventional wisdom that it is "One of the three great monothestic religions of the world". We could have just as easily said that "Soviet communism is one of the great social economic systems in the world" which would be as truthful as the former.

Something else is at work here. Some ' meeting of the minds' of the elites of politics,academia, economics, to find some ways and means of 'civilizing' a pernicious mythology which is so apparently detrimental to the nation -states, and the independence of the individual, and the espoused values.

What would be the consequences of advocating the elimination of Islam and working toward that end be? The Muslims objections notwithstanding, Islam is not, has never been, and will not be moderated into a system of belief compatible with the existing order.


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Modern or moderate? [96 words]Archimedes2Nov 7, 2007 11:21
⇒ a distinction without a difference [251 words]donvanNov 7, 2007 15:25
going about it the wrong way [73 words]yuval Brandstetter MDNov 8, 2007 04:22

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