Submitted by Truth-Teller (United Kingdom), Oct 1, 2007 at 22:38
There's something many of you are missing... the estimates are based on YOUR OWN figures, ask Daniel Pipes, better still ask Mark Steyn.
SS - You actually believe in liberating the people of the world. Well golly! Last time I checked it was your people who "liberated" North America from the erm... oppression the Native Americans were putting themselves under... oh hold on ... that doesnt work does it. Darn!
Well maybe the way that your people liberated the Vietnamese.... oh oopsie. That doesn't work either does it?
In fact, truth be told for a change, the CIA, British Intelligence service terrorists and the black ops that the West has perpetrated (whether that is under the guise of Britain or the US) has created more oppressive regimes and military dictatorships then ever known before on the planet. The blood is on your hands my boy. Do the body count... Central Americas, South America, Israel, the wider Middle East region, the Philipines, Vietnam, Korea... the list goes on and on. And where has it got you. There is a fantastic WHITE western journo from Australia known as John Pilger to has been documenting these atrocities for years. Google Video him. He's no sand monkey, so you might take his AWARD WINNING journalism seriously.
You see, you are suffering from short termism... populations grow, they resent your imperialist and genocidal oppression, they hate you and then what... you claim you won the ideological battle! Someone needs a couple of vicadin and a lie down... lol… "…relax tell me about your mother…."
So in the face of all the irrefutable evidence, provided by your own people, your answer is a maniacal rant.. ".. yeah…we will kill you all..." I love it. The truth really is a red rag to a bull isn't it!!!! Look, whether you like it or not, you cannot out-populate Iraq, all you can do is set it back a few years economically... I mean it is not as if they are not going to be able to re-establish their state is it now. Wait until Iran set up the Oil Bourse and the Saudi's (who own most of your economy) start selling of their $$$s like they are going out of fashion (which they are of course). Watch everything fall down around your ears. Petrodollars??? Lol… House prices, inflation, here cometh the 1920s... trust me the world is glued to their televisions awaiting the collapse of the Truman Show that is the American economy…. It will be Katrina multiplied by silly.
If there is one thing Muslims have over the West is that they are a patient people. They are a non-violent people... well as long as a non-violent people can be non-violent until someone comes knocking on your door to kick 7 shades of ... out of you :) Is it never ok to fight back? Either way, Muslims are a patient people, and time will be the great leveller because God has predetermined all of this. All you have done in Iraq is galvanise the Muslim world and their opinion and to bring us friends from all corners of the world. Kill who you want. People can be replaced.
And to your threat of genocide... well then there is no doubt who acts as the right hand of Satan. Killing of innocents.... invasions, spreading war, death and destruction... can you not see, are you really that blind? I cannot believe that you have an education and can think for yourself... more likely you DO know but your hatred, racism and Xenophobia gets the better of you. Don't you get it... you ARE the wrong side, you always have been, the values of moral decrepitude you stand for are the Satanic values... READ your Bible if you are unsure... the cowboys were the BAD guys, not the Indians. Just ask Chavez and Ahmedinejad. Better still, just ask the world.
So who else.... oh yes...
Donaldo - You are misinformed but reality doesn't care whether you accept it either. You are welcome to your own bubble. Muslims are at 2bn and growing. It is without doubt, the world's fastest growing religion. Singularly, the world's largest PRACTICED religion. It is the fastest growing religion in terms of conversions (or reversions) from WHITE AMERICAN women aged 14 - 45.
Stay in the 3rd world... no my amigo.. i am right here. 400,000 Muslims in Texas, how many in other states... ask yourself... be paranoid, be very paranoid... lol... or just chill the f*ck out and accept it. How about that eh? All Hallows Eve in a so-called Christian land... maybe you should look in the mirror...try googling "occult" for Hors D'oeuvres.
Shayna - Ashkenazim Khazar Eastern European ... do you know the meaning of those words.. please enlighten me. In fact enlighten us all. It is a fact that almost no Jewry currently resident in Israel has their roots there. Virtually none of you are Sephardi. You have about as much right to live in Israel as you do to live in Ireland... after all Oliver Cromwell the Great Lord Protector invaded Ireland and committed ethnic cleansing of Catholics to hand over property and land to Jews well before the Zionist agenda was kicked into gear in the 19th Century. Do your homework girl!
I don't hate freedom .. I LOVE IT. I love the freedom to pursue happiness, to live and breath clean air. Its nice to be able to sleep in a bed without fear of foreign invasion, without carpet bombs falling from the sky and killing small children in their beds, without fear of towns like Fallujah being razed to the ground where biological and chemical weapons are used indiscriminately. Want to see a picture of dead kids "asleep" in the street with five year olds curled up in the foetal position with their skin burnt off by US chemical weaponry? No, i didn't think so. Please ask... please... I dare you. I don't think you could handle it.
I love freedom. Freedom to practice my own religion without fear of persecution. Wasn't it the European Jews who invaded the Holy Muslim lands, PRE DATING the world wars, who then oppressed, killed and exiled peoples from their lands?
The Torah forbids ending the exile of the Jews and the establishment of a state and army until the Holy One (blessed He, in His Glory and Essence) redeems the Jews. This is forbidden even if the state is conducted according to the law of the Torah because arising from the exile itself is forbidden; Jews are required to remain under the rule of the nations of the world, as is explained in the book VAYOEL MOSHE. It is exactly because of the oppression of the Hebrews that Jews are clearly COMMANDED that they are not to oppress anyone else. When the people you oppress fight back, how is this terrorism?
Like I said, do your homework girl!
So, who's next....
Pepe - You say Truth Teller (ie. me) "obviously lives in the ideological nuthouse built by warped, frustrated, ignorant, inferior, hate-filled islamic lunatic mullahs, muftis, and ayatollahs, who, no doubt, will inevitably be dispatched forthwith"
Its all the Emporer's New Clothes... be honest.. .we all know. The picture you are painting is not the picture that Muslims know, especially those in the West, and it is CLEARLY not the picture of people who interact with Muslims each day. Herein lies your paradox, the more you peddle these myths, the more .. when people realise they are BOGUS and NOT TRUE.. the more the people move towards Islam, whether that is by befriending, tolerating or best of all, BECOMING MUSLIM.
Remember, post-911 conversions to Islam have reached record levels... that's conversions, not births (although Muslim's do have the highest birth rates too... but i wont hit you with that club just yet... i can see you are in pain)
A challenge for you: go to your local mosque and ask anyone inside if they feel "islamic intolerance, oppression, brutality, and psychopathology " .. offer them the chance to 'break free'... just like Kevin Bacon in Footloose... you can go jiving down the street together... go find out.. I DARE YOU... no in fact, let me use more universally understood advocacy... I DOUBLE DARE YOU.
Itsik - Shame on you… were you sick the day they taught World History in school? The invading marauders from Europe did their best to genocide the tribes of Central and Southern America. Funny that for the previous 500 years, Muslims had been traveling from Delba (Palos) in Muslim Spain to the Caribbean and Central and Southern America.. living alongside, trading and intermarrying. For the avoidance of doubt:
During the rule of the Spanish Muslim Caliph Abdullah Ibn Muhammad (888 - 912 CE), a Muslim navigator known as Khashkhash Ibn Saeed Ibn Aswad of Cordoba, sails from Delba (Palos) in Spain in 889 CE. He crosses the Atlantic reaching ‘Ard Majhoola' (the unknown territory) and returns with ‘fabulous treasures'. This is recorded in a book written by Al-Masudi (871 - 957 CE) called ‘Muruj Adh-dhahab wa Maadin al-Jawhar' (The Meadows of Gold and Quarries of Jewels).
A renowned American historian Leo Weiner from Harvard University wrote a book called ‘Africa and The Discovery of America' in 1920. He wrote that Columbus was well aware of the Mandinka presence in the New World and that the West African Muslims had spread throughout the Caribbean, Central, South and North American territories, including Canada, where they were trading and intermarrying with the Iroquois and Algonquin Indians.
Upto 20% or more of the slaves brought to the Americas from Islamic Western Africa were Muslim. It's the kind of thing that Speilberg conveniently forgot to mention in his white-wash Amistad, or that Bill O'Reilly forgets when he calls the US founded by Jews and Christians… yes on Muslim blood reddening the soil beneath their feet.
Islam started with Prophet Adam the first man (pbuh) and the first place of worship known to mankind… the Ka'aba. It includes all of the prophets and makes no distinction between them: Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Soloman, Jesus and the seal of the prophets, Mohammed (pbut). In fact, Islam in its purest form is the globe's oldest religion; Judaism and Christianity are unfortunate off shoots. If you want to talk Vedas and Upanishads, be my guest.
Donvan – Simply put Islam is not doomed. It was here before you and me and it will be here after we are gone. It is growing and will not abate.. regardless of the Western wars waged on grounds of economy, proselytisation, military, ideology and capitalism.
Do you know who REALLY owns your economy? It is for this reason the dollar backing MUST revert to the GOLD standard because at the present your fate is in the hands of Saudis and Emirati princes. Capitalism… ever heard of a country running an overdraft? The Banking system is DESIGNED to increase debt to keep money circulating. If its not too much of an intellectual stretch do the research for yourself.
TO ALL… I said it before and ill say it again, get over it. The Muslims are coming whether you like it or not.
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| I would not care if . . . [29 words] | Phil Greend | May 18, 2008 14:32 |
| You.. [58 words] | donvan | Oct 10, 2007 13:00 |
| ↔ donvan [48 words] | shayna | Oct 10, 2007 19:21 |
| ↔ Slowly... [163 words] | donvan | Oct 11, 2007 09:56 |
| Attention All Muslims: [8 words] | shayna | Oct 8, 2007 14:28 |
| ↔ explanation [268 words] | shayna | Oct 10, 2007 14:54 |
| inducing hate [161 words] | a proud muslim | Oct 5, 2007 21:03 |
| ↔ Does anyone say, too many churches in Saudi Arabia? [92 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 7, 2007 00:09 |
| ↔ Can you honestly say [230 words] | No Dhimmi | Oct 7, 2007 00:35 |
| ↔ a proud muslim [275 words] | shayna | Oct 7, 2007 16:04 |
| ↔ And speaking of hate! [161 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 8, 2007 07:33 |
| ↔ proud... [41 words] | donvan | Oct 10, 2007 12:33 |
| ↔ No Dhimmi's Honest questions !!! [281 words] | Jaladhi | Oct 10, 2007 15:19 |
| ↔ An opportunity... [49 words] | DONVAN | Oct 15, 2007 09:51 |
| ↔ PROUD MUSLIM...? [30 words] | DONVAN | Oct 25, 2007 16:15 |
| Truth teller- Nazi Link and Ahmanedjad.- To Jennifer Solis. [137 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 5, 2007 19:31 |
| Too many Mosques and Resolutions Favoring only Islam- Take ACTION. [529 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 5, 2007 16:39 |
| ↔ hold on a second.... [33 words] | daniel cohen | Oct 5, 2007 17:20 |
| ↔ In Defense of Ynnatchkah, Mr. Cohen [44 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 6, 2007 17:14 |
| ↔ daniel cohen [144 words] | shayna | Oct 7, 2007 16:14 |
| ↔ Capitalism.. [128 words] | donvan | Oct 10, 2007 12:48 |
| Problem solving [58 words] | Rodolfo | Oct 5, 2007 04:51 |
| No more... [20 words] | Nessie | Oct 5, 2007 04:46 |
| ↔ Nessie [64 words] | shayna | Oct 5, 2007 16:53 |
| Simplify, simplify [347 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 4, 2007 19:08 |
| ⇒ To all- I said... GET OVER IT ! [1872 words] | Truth-Teller | Oct 1, 2007 22:38 |
| ↔ truth teller? [112 words] | shayna | Oct 2, 2007 17:20 |
| ↔ WOW - That was interesting [394 words] | SS | Oct 2, 2007 22:38 |
| ↔ "Truth teller"... [650 words] | No Dhimmi | Oct 2, 2007 23:07 |
| ↔ Rectifying Truth- Amina & CIA. [172 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 3, 2007 02:53 |
| ↔ Why of course! [138 words] | To Truth teller | Oct 3, 2007 03:29 |
| ↔ The Christian Faith Is Spreading, Even Muslims Are Coming To Faith In Christ [92 words] | AnneM | Oct 3, 2007 09:50 |
| ↔ AnneM [147 words] | shayna | Oct 3, 2007 15:53 |
| ↔ U.S.A. LIBERATED MORE COUNTRIES THAN ANYONE - [81 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 3, 2007 16:34 |
| ↔ Denial aint just a river - (TO ALL) ...DO THE BODY COUNT [520 words] | Truth Teller | Oct 4, 2007 02:07 |
| ↔ You can fool some of the people some of the time... [465 words] | Truth-Teller | Oct 4, 2007 02:24 |
| ↔ Lets put it simply [329 words] | Truth-Teller | Oct 4, 2007 02:37 |
| ↔ Do a survey? [361 words] | Truth-Teller | Oct 4, 2007 02:53 |
| ↔ Matthew 7 [922 words] | Truth-Teller | Oct 4, 2007 03:09 |
| ↔ avoiding the bare facts about islam [434 words] | shayna | Oct 4, 2007 16:18 |
| ↔ Our dear Truth Teller al-ladhi la yaqool al-haqiqa [260 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 4, 2007 20:33 |
| ↔ All in a Word [178 words] | SS | Oct 5, 2007 01:46 |
| ↔ Our dear Truth Teller al-ladhi la yaqool al-haqiqa and charity starts and you know where.. part deux [474 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 5, 2007 07:35 |
| ↔ For our dear TT and Islam and communism [201 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 5, 2007 14:49 |
| ↔ Truth-Teller [278 words] | shayna | Oct 5, 2007 16:35 |
| ↔ Thank you, Dhimmi No More [3 words] | Ynnatchkah | Oct 5, 2007 16:41 |
| ↔ truth-teller, digest this ! [121 words] | shayna | Oct 5, 2007 16:48 |
| ↔ The Greek and Hebrew, T-T [520 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 6, 2007 16:45 |
| ↔ You forgot someone [467 words] | No Dhimmi | Oct 6, 2007 18:05 |
| ↔ Our dear TT and "do the body count": and Sirat rasul Allah and al-maghazi or the invasions! [490 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 7, 2007 12:13 |
| ↔ truth-teller , digest this if youre man enough [172 words] | shayna | Oct 8, 2007 14:40 |
| ↔ Christians and muslims are not following same diety (For truth teller) [41 words] | john | Oct 10, 2007 04:59 |
| ↔ Very well said [46 words] | peace1day | Apr 6, 2008 02:26 |
| ↔ You yourself are biasing [352 words] | Eins | Feb 6, 2009 11:48 |
| Try human being, not non-Muslim [244 words] | TheWayItIs | Oct 1, 2007 02:27 |
| ↔ TheWayItIs [98 words] | shayna | Oct 2, 2007 02:17 |
| ↔ Reply to TheWayItIs [218 words] | Itsik from London | Oct 2, 2007 03:31 |
| ↔ Muslims and ‘other' peoples of conscience. . . [161 words] | TheWayItIs | Oct 3, 2007 01:47 |
| ↔ The subject is the psychology of ‘assumed' Islamic Supremacism and ‘Language Dhimmitude' [183 words] | TheWayItIs | Oct 3, 2007 02:39 |
| ↔ reply to hot air [65 words] | shayna | Oct 3, 2007 15:42 |
| ↔ Interesting Point [200 words] | SS | Oct 3, 2007 18:48 |
| Islam is not a monster. [566 words] | Syed Kasim | Sep 30, 2007 23:16 |
| ↔ Like the Wind Blows [748 words] | SS | Oct 1, 2007 20:55 |
| ↔ I'll speak in absolutes of the ideologies, as your's above... [294 words] | TheWayItIs | Oct 2, 2007 00:17 |
| ↔ Islam is no monster.. [105 words] | DONVAN | Oct 2, 2007 15:38 |
| ↔ Syed Kasim, read your history and scriptures [188 words] | Hisham | Oct 4, 2007 18:50 |
| ↔ Thanx Hisham [60 words] | Syed Kasim | Oct 5, 2007 16:25 |
| ↔ Wake up Syed Karim [161 words] | Hisham | Oct 9, 2007 16:25 |
| ↔ To Hisham [24 words] | Syed Kasim | Oct 9, 2007 17:23 |
| Mosques throughout the West [262 words] | Don | Sep 30, 2007 01:34 |
| Get over it! [234 words] | Truth-teller | Sep 28, 2007 20:27 |
| ↔ Keep Kicking the Gift Horse in the Mouth [204 words] | SS | Sep 29, 2007 23:52 |
| ↔ it's almost halloween...wooo woooo [101 words] | Donald O | Sep 30, 2007 00:00 |
| ↔ Truth-teller [227 words] | shayna | Sep 30, 2007 11:05 |
| ↔ Islamic Intolerance, Oppression, Brutality, and Psychopathology Will Be Crushed.... [82 words] | Domenic Pepe | Sep 30, 2007 22:50 |
| ↔ Truth teller tells nothing but lies [92 words] | Itsik from London | Oct 1, 2007 03:58 |
| ↔ Doomed... [129 words] | donvan | Oct 1, 2007 11:38 |
| ↔ Too Many Mosques [55 words] | tabingins911 | Oct 7, 2007 17:35 |
| Mosques prepare for the Mahdi (AntiChrist ?) [139 words] | SS | Sep 26, 2007 02:44 |
| Am I the only one who thought this? [64 words] | Sofa Sogood | Sep 25, 2007 14:06 |
| ↔ Too many.. [118 words] | donvan | Oct 1, 2007 11:52 |
| The Egyptian Case - How churches are treated in Egypt? [168 words] | Egyptian Christian | Sep 25, 2007 12:18 |
| ↔ Un-reported Muslim Crimes [466 words] | SS | Sep 26, 2007 00:02 |
| ↔ Egyptian Christian [413 words] | jennifer solis | Sep 26, 2007 16:35 |
| ↔ Egyptian Christian [160 words] | shayna | Sep 27, 2007 14:07 |
| ↔ docility [136 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Sep 27, 2007 15:56 |
| ↔ You are right [110 words] | Zohra | Sep 28, 2007 09:46 |
| ↔ To SS: You said.. [108 words] | Ynnatchkah | Sep 30, 2007 02:47 |
| Why Mosques are being built [578 words] | Donald M. | Sep 25, 2007 06:02 |
| ↔ All mosque building must be stopped in our lands!!!! [97 words] | Jaladhi | Sep 26, 2007 16:24 |
| Mosques Are Breeding Grounds For Terrorists [93 words] | AnneM | Sep 24, 2007 20:18 |
| Too Many Mosques? The Truth America Does Not Want to Face. [529 words] | M. Tovey | Sep 24, 2007 11:56 |
| Wrong [5 words] | fightback | Sep 24, 2007 09:02 |
| It would be interesting to study [69 words] | PVB | Sep 24, 2007 08:13 |
| an arsenal by any other name would still stink [446 words] | jennifer solis | Sep 24, 2007 02:49 |
| Mosques are the Terror Meeting , Planning , Training Centres for Jihadis. [70 words] | Goga | Sep 23, 2007 11:25 |
| Mosques [87 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 23, 2007 08:20 |
| ↔ To every action there is equal and opposite reaction [272 words] | Mansoor | Sep 24, 2007 02:12 |
| ↔ Action (911) - Reaction = No Muslims [418 words] | SS | Sep 24, 2007 19:20 |
| ↔ Our dear Mansoor rabina yu'alimuhu qira'ti al-Qur'an bi al-Lughat al-Arabiya [26 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 24, 2007 19:39 |
| ↔ This Is Why It Is Important To Go Online For The Information [57 words] | AnneM | Sep 24, 2007 20:25 |
| ↔ If the Love of Almighty God Through Jesus Christ is the Action, What Should be the Reaction? [327 words] | M. Tovey | Sep 25, 2007 12:28 |
| ↔ Some sacred place!!! [140 words] | Jaladhi | Sep 25, 2007 15:21 |
| ↔ The Koran needs to be cleaned of bad thoughts [185 words] | DaveP | Sep 25, 2007 19:10 |
| ↔ Save yourself from Hell your chance of getting guidance is almost gone [438 words] | Mansoor | Sep 26, 2007 06:11 |
| ↔ Mr. Mansoor [174 words] | jennifer solis | Sep 27, 2007 00:06 |
| ↔ Where there is Smoke there is Fire [778 words] | SS | Sep 27, 2007 00:09 |
| ↔ reply to mansoor [170 words] | shayna | Sep 27, 2007 14:32 |
| ↔ M. Tovey [72 words] | shayna | Sep 27, 2007 14:49 |
| ↔ Western countries are paying the price of what they have done to Muslims [710 words] | Mansoor | Sep 28, 2007 00:56 |
| ↔ 2nd part of reply [55 words] | Mansoor | Sep 28, 2007 01:32 |
| ↔ Muslim Personality Disorder.. [5 words] | donvan | Sep 28, 2007 12:07 |
| ↔ Mansoor [1081 words] | shayna | Sep 28, 2007 17:04 |
| ↔ Monsoor [257 words] | DON | Sep 28, 2007 23:27 |
| ↔ Thankyou, Mr. Mansoor [451 words] | jennifer solis | Sep 29, 2007 15:42 |
| ↔ Grow up and wake up mansoor [450 words] | shayna | Sep 29, 2007 18:03 |
| ↔ You cannot believe or understand [268 words] | Mansoor | Oct 1, 2007 02:22 |
| ↔ Your anger is closing the door of your mind [660 words] | Mansoor | Oct 1, 2007 04:56 |
| ↔ Mansoor [633 words] | shayna | Oct 1, 2007 17:53 |
| ↔ Dear Shayna [437 words] | jennifer solis | Oct 1, 2007 20:36 |
| ↔ Mansoor [1136 words] | shayna | Oct 1, 2007 21:31 |
| ↔ Mansoor [213 words] | Belachan | Oct 2, 2007 02:31 |
| ↔ Belachan [487 words] | shayna | Oct 2, 2007 18:03 |
| ↔ Shayna, This Should Not Be Suprising [101 words] | AnneM | Oct 3, 2007 09:26 |
| ↔ Shayna [339 words] | Belachan | Oct 6, 2007 04:21 |
| ↔ Belachan [880 words] | shayna | Oct 7, 2007 15:47 |
| ↔ How did I miss this little gem? [219 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 8, 2007 15:23 |
| ↔ Shayna [497 words] | Belachan | Oct 11, 2007 13:08 |
| Peter King is One Hundren Percent Right - Mosque Remains Centerpoint of Islamism [36 words] | Singha | Sep 23, 2007 04:04 |
| ↔ Evrey thing in life has a limit [195 words] | zari namdar | Sep 24, 2007 01:22 |
| ↔ Stop the building of mosques! [122 words] | Nessie | Sep 24, 2007 02:52 |
| ↔ Islam is not to worship, but to submit [83 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Sep 25, 2007 13:38 |
| ↔ buildings...... [98 words] | la | Sep 25, 2007 13:59 |
| ↔ Qualified opinion about mosques (to Yuval) [151 words] | Nessie | Sep 26, 2007 04:21 |
| ↔ Muslims have rights too. [136 words] | Mohommed | Oct 3, 2007 19:06 |